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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
4-，前半布局、对人物内外反差的表现挺精彩，后半要直面揭晓主题，难免煽情直白了点。另外，章节是针对人物的，到后面围绕主角，其他人物有些淡出，互动、视角少了，烘托不够，核心情感反倒不好表现。
什么鸡脖玩意，整片都以为卷福和邓斯特肯定有事儿，结果就是个儿子不喜欢酒鬼妈被欺负偷偷杀了牧场大哥的简单破事儿，就这么个烂故事要拍的这么用力吗，卷福有病啊接这么个玩意
平平无奇的日子里因为某些不可控的变量加入反而朝着瓦解的方向快速前进，多少故事都想在这种疯狂的进程中讲好一个人的毁灭史，偏偏毁灭这个牛仔的是一只兔子，一切坚不可摧的伪装都在本能的互相吸引中全面瓦解，于是这个善于庖丁解牛的好猎手，终于遇到了捕获自己的那个猎人。
8.5/10 大银幕。今年目前为止我最喜欢的新片。超西部片，也是希斯特斯兄弟之后最好的历史西部片，和前者一样极富现代性的类型文化反思。每个类型都有其先验的文化意义，西部片是(男人的)神话，更是长久以来被男性导演们所主导、推动发展的类型，那是被男性确认过的范式和规则。本片是把原始的类型意象极大程度的从自身惯例中剥离出来，又最大化的消减类型元素，而突出的是细致到毫厘的心理洞察，对于观众则是心理负荷信号，最后这也直指主题价值。slowly rising，纸花、木梳、皮绳… 阉割、伤口、病毒… 我感受到的是简坎皮恩的心性和耐力，看到了她的智识。西部片涉及到男子气概、性别角色、同性情结这些都不易过时，身为一位女性电影人她也可以在这个类型留下自己的足迹。本尼的这个高压角色可能会让他拿到第一座小金人…
和《第一头牛》一样，女导演拍的西部片可真迷人啊。
这部片子最牛逼的地方是导演用了一群男人讲女权和抨击父权
愿救我的灵魂摆脱刀剑，救我的佳偶远离犬之力
这应该算得上是完美犯罪了，影片的细节很好，最后一刻死者出现的时候，前面的所有细节一下子涌上来，有点后知后觉的明白了一切。两边的角度，各有各的可怜，也各有各的可恨。
节奏缓慢，不明觉厉。是一个女导演对大男子气概（machismo）阴恻恻的贬低和否定（？）意思是说一个蒙大拿西部牛仔，纯度最高的纯爷们，居然是个基佬，并且死于娘炮之手。类似于赵云身经百战却死于老婆的一根绣花针。
一开始以为是个「霸道总裁（牧场主）爱上我」的故事，而且以BC的演技，他一旦流露出「我缺爱，我也渴望爱」的眼神吧，还挺让人遭不住的。结果结尾大反转啊（就不剧透了）！但仔细一想，咳，世间的狗屁霸总们，You deserve it！让你们死于爱的幻觉就是导演最大的「妇人之仁」了
没看过原作的话，可能确实不太get得到一些情节。画面的呈现和演员表现都很棒，两个小时里没发生太多事，却不觉得冗长。但论及对人物的刻画，还是小说更细致深刻些。
我没太看懂弦外之音，就已知情节，也不怎么震撼……
好闷啊，有点像berlin school那帮人拍的东西，take itself so seriously...看不了这种arthouse，空镜啊drone shots啊靠特写动作传递情绪啊，可能work for others，not for me。视角一直在变，谁是主角谁是villain一直在变，因此就真的can't connect to anyone以及很容易显得不平衡。当然都是故意的咯，就是不要让观众identify anyone，大家都有问题，大家又都值得同情，okay fine。而且这片子真的太长了，不过就是想说masculinity bad patriarchy bad; social, class and gender conforming is suffocating, sure，但最根本的冲突驱动力是masculinity吗还是明明是每个人的嫉妒？也没讲清楚rose为啥就那样了而george这工具人后面就一直失踪...Thomasin McKenzie出演一个完全可有可无的工具人纯是为了增加星光吧，更显出这片子的废篇空间。
州长夫妇和父母的压迫感更多的是衬托本尼的存在吧？我不太觉得那是另一种权利或者力量带来的压迫。
蛮精彩。极尽老练、沉稳的调度，从影像到文本的过渡感层次十足。这部片会让你深刻体会何为克制却饱满的表达。
BC现在最大的问题，凡是剧情片角色，他都会用力过猛，这真是一个演员很本质的东西，难调整和改变。当然，这部片所有，都没一个像西部的，大家都在很努力的演出西部牛仔的粗旷和性感，就连大山、蓝天和白云都在努力，但结果不如人意。其实，换个时代、社会背景也许更适合这一群人。这也是整部片看下来，始终觉得有种不协调感的原因所在
隐晦而克制，俄狄浦斯，兄弟同床，忘年不伦，母与父，兄与弟，叔与侄，牛与犬
外硬内软的人碰上被父亲教育“做个好人”外软内硬的人一败涂地，所以要求阳刚有什么用？他不照样可能是个gay可能不生三胎吗。感觉结局儿子在窗台意味深长下一步是想用床底下的炭疽绳搞死继父把二胎扼杀在肚子中，就像他对他父亲做的那样（上吊存疑）
看过重口、深刻的电影很多，JaneCampion你这太黑了，再见。要去看看《阳光小美女》舒缓过来
浪费了时间 误以为是好片 硬撑着看完了 片名也莫名其妙 实在欣赏不了
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