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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
感觉加上历史厚重的东西人物更能立得住。也不枉借鉴石黑一雄
你们日本黑帮都喜欢大吼大叫的吗？一天到晚啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊，我耳朵都快聋了。
这也太虎头蛇尾了，前期塑造了这么一个无视规则的反派，结果所谓的开战就这？少了第一部大叔们撑场面，年轻演员演技、气场不足的问题一下子全暴露出来了。唯二两点，龙谷源治附体得主角，铃木的反派，看完才反应过来是那个变态假面，这个演员是个宝藏。
比第一部更差，人物就几个，来来回回的，想拍出无间道没那个本事，黑帮的戏份也写的不完整，不是很好看
事实上电影本身就是文艺片，没有《烈日灼心》那种窒息感。
都知道暂时的停战状态下乱入了一个疯子，但都不处置，任由他在那边想杀谁就杀谁…就无语，疯子是黑社会随身带枪你们难道不是吗？？这一部看下来感觉就是无脑，全都是为了剧情波折而波折。幸太从放出来继续卧底就疯狂立flag不死都不行。还有非要搞一个喜欢挖眼珠子的反派人设吗，大晚上看完属实有点恶心到了。
7.5分，两头孤狼疯狂对咬，遍体鳞伤也不知停下，仿佛痛觉已消失。
画面还行，人物塑造比较失败，比如说队长吧，感觉得出导演是有点想往廖凡那个方向塑造，结果是大多数时候看起来就像一条疯狗。
有一点点失望。作为看过很多优质卧底港片的观众对于里面一些粗暴的设定比如不做防范公然见面等等十分出戏。然后就是西野七濑确实好看啊，可是演风尘女还是差点意思，没啥层次。最后的决战也是莫名其妙，反派在前期塑造成难以攻克的巨大力量，最后却草草收场。前作优秀的悬念感只继承了皮毛。可惜啊，太可惜了。虽然还是挺优质的黑帮片，可因为前作，所以对这部有些许苛求。不过我还是支持派续作的，毕竟当代这个类型，也就只剩下孤狼之血了
片长和节奏，好像一个人写文章，一直用同样的笔调和语气，磨磨唧唧地写了好长好长，看得好累！所有角色说话都语重心长，都好似背着一副重担又要说出几句极富深意的道理来。构想不错，bug太大，逻辑不通顺。
一堆漏洞，逻辑差的要死还故作深沉，无病呻吟，呸！
松坂桃李明显就傻了些，还被人算计，不过短发的造型还行挺帅
总想挨一点《杀人回忆》，可除了怀旧的滤镜和台词里偶然提起的时代符号，其它都显得冗长和无趣。
3.3星。大上看到教出来的徒弟这样只怕气死，大上是为了保护老百姓，男主还拉幸太下水，幸太被上林派去杀男主那会就应该送幸太进监狱躲躲了。里面这两帮派跟极恶非道里真是比不了，上林这种狗当个组长差不多了。结尾枪杀好评
和第一部一样干净利落，上林让人恨之入骨，日冈最后那几枪太爽了，娜酱的演技感觉些许让人有点出戏，幸太死的时候，感觉哭的还没有松坂桃李厉害，毕竟是偶像转演员，就不多强求了，电影总体还是挺好看的，8.5/10
完全不逊于第一部的好看。这是两匹凶恶孤狼的互相撕咬与闪烁着幽暗邪恶目光的浮世绘。这系列本无意把重点放在传统黑帮片里黑社会随着时代式微的记录，而是揭示着黑社会犯罪与政治犯罪的巨大区别。后者常以程序正义之名做着恶行易施之实。两种以极端方式实施善与恶的力量，任由腐败黑暗的司法体系的操纵，直至共同毁灭。结尾山隐里明灭可见的孤狼成为一种怀疑，亦是一种希望。极端的残忍画面、无良媒体的无来由改变立场、无视人物行为逻辑，为残酷而残酷的动作场面都为这部作品增加了瑕疵。但这一定是一部好电影，希望以后会有两部剪为一部的导剪版。
没想到还能出续集，顺便两部一起看了，日冈警官还是不够老练，吃了很多亏
剧情有点拉胯 但是铃木演的真好 甚至希望他把那个日冈警察打死😂最后居然没干过带着手铐的日冈我表示很疑惑………
孤狼是面对敌人战斗到最后一刻都不退缩，日冈警官也是，以自己的方式进行着战斗，哪怕成为迷失在体制内的凶犬，更多讲的是人性复杂扭曲的一面，黑帮也好警察也好，都有恶的一面，场面延续了第一部的血腥风格，铃木亮平快成为黑帮专业户了。
影片完成度很高。年代感和边城气都营造得不错。可惜女主动机成立牵强，编剧还自作心虚一个劲儿借男主口发问她为何要回来报仇。剧作也就现出硬伤。
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